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Ultra5 bootet nichtmehr - PCI Bus kaputt?

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ChrisXX:
Hallo,

ich habe große Probleme mit einer Ultra5 - nichts geht mehr:
Ich kam aus einer Büroauflösung günstig an zwei Ultra5s, die eine funzt prima, Probleme bereitet nur die andere.
Als ich sie anschloss und startete ging alles noch, sie startete Solaris 7 (iirc), dann wollte ich Solaris 10 installieren was so weit auch zu klappen schien, bis irgendwann die Statusanzeige längere Zeit nix mehr machte. Ungeduldig wie ich war startete ich sie kalt neu - und dann war's aus.

VGA tot, IDE tot, Netzwerk tot ...
Stop+N nützte nix, das sie nicht total kaputt war konnte ich erst feststellen als ich sie per Nullmodemkabel anschloss, da kam sie nicht zum Booten da sie HDD/CD/Network nicht finden würde.

So hab ich, so unwahrscheinlich wie mir das selbst vorkommt, das Gefühl das der PCI Bus kaputtgegangen ist.

Reseten per set-defaults nützt auch nix, bei einem POST ist eigentlich alles in Ordnung.
show-devs zeigt folgende (seltsam sind Zeilen 13-15) Ausgabe:

--- Code: ---   1. ok show-devs
   2. /SUNW,UltraSPARC-IIi@0,0
   3. /pci@1f,0
   4. /virtual-memory
   5. /memory@0,10000000
   6. /aliases
   7. /options
   8. /openprom
   9. /chosen
  10. /packages
  11. /pci@1f,0/pci@1
  12. /pci@1f,0/pci@1,1
  13. /pci@1f,0/pci@1,1/<Unnamed>
  14. /pci@1f,0/pci@1,1/<Unnamed>
  15. /pci@1f,0/pci@1,1/<Unnamed>
  16. /pci@1f,0/pci@1,1/ebus@1
  17. /pci@1f,0/pci@1,1/ebus@1/SUNW,CS4231@14,200000
  18. /pci@1f,0/pci@1,1/ebus@1/flashprom@10,0
  19. /pci@1f,0/pci@1,1/ebus@1/eeprom@14,0
  20. /pci@1f,0/pci@1,1/ebus@1/fdthree@14,3023f0
  21. /pci@1f,0/pci@1,1/ebus@1/ecpp@14,3043bc
  22. /pci@1f,0/pci@1,1/ebus@1/su@14,3062f8
  23. /pci@1f,0/pci@1,1/ebus@1/su@14,3083f8
  24. /pci@1f,0/pci@1,1/ebus@1/se@14,400000
  25. /pci@1f,0/pci@1,1/ebus@1/SUNW,pll@14,504000
  26. /pci@1f,0/pci@1,1/ebus@1/power@14,724000
  27. /pci@1f,0/pci@1,1/ebus@1/auxio@14,726000
  28. /openprom/client-services
  29. /packages/sun-keyboard
  30. /packages/SUNW,builtin-drivers
  31. /packages/disk-label
  32. /packages/obp-tftp
  33. /packages/deblocker
  34. /packages/terminal-emulator

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Hat vielleicht jemand eine Idee was man machen könnte - ob noch Rettungsmöglichkeit besteht?
Vielen Dank!

cya
ChrisXX

DukeNuke2:
hast du den diag-level mal auf "max" gesetzt und den diag-switch? auf "true"??? dann noch mal nen power-off und den POST nochmal fahren. dann am ok prompt ein "show-post-results"..... mal sehen ob dann nen fehler gefunden wird....

Drusus:
Moin,

die <unknown> Eintraege kommen an einer Stelle wo normalerweise die Geraete am IDE-Controller der Ultra 5 angezeigt werden. Ich habe da schon erlebt, dass ein einziges defektes Geraet da den ganzen Bus lahmlegt (in meinem Fall war es das CD-Laufwerk). Probier mal das CD-Laufwerk (wenn vorhanden) abzuklemmen (und falls mehrere Disks intern, dann nur eine anschliessen). Wenn das nichts holft, dann mal genau umgekehrt, d.h. Disk abklemmen aber CD-Laufwerk dran und von CD-Booten (zum Test).

Ansonsten natuerlich (wie schon vorgeschlagen) mal den erweiterten POST....

Tschau,
  Drusus.

Jonny:
Wenn das mit den Laufwerken nichts hilft, dann raus mit den PCI-Karten.
Ev. auch die Riser Karte raus und dann Stück für Stück wieder rein und schauen
wo die Kiste die Grätsche macht.

Gruß
Hans-Peter

ChrisXX:
Leider hat das Abstöpseln von CD/HDD nichts geholfen, allerdings scheint der PCI Bus doch nicht so kaputt zu sein, habe eine Netzwerkkarte die ich ausgebaut hatte wieder drinen und sie erscheint in der Liste.
Trotzdem geht immer noch nichts :(

Hier der POST mit allem drum und dran:


--- Code: ---Hardware Power ON

@(#) Sun Ultra 5/10 UPA/PCI  3.15 Version 2 created 1998/11/10 10:35
Probing keyboard Done
%o0 = 0000.0000.0000.4001

Executing Power On SelfTest

@(#) Sun Ultra 5/10 (Darwin) POST 2.3.1 (Build No. 521) 16:33 on 08/07/98

CPU: UltraSPARC-LC (MHz: 333 Ecache Size: 2048KB)

Init POST BSS
        Init System BSS
NVRAM
        NVRAM Battery Detect Test
        NVRAM Scratch Addr Test
        NVRAM Scratch Data Test
DMMU TLB Tags
        DMMU TLB Tag Access Test
DMMU TLB RAM
        DMMU TLB RAM Access Test
Probe Ecache
        Probe Ecache
Ecache Tests
        Ecache RAM Addr Test
        Ecache Tag Addr Test
        Ecache RAM Test
        Ecache Tag Test
All CPU Basic Tests
        V9 Instruction Test
        CPU Tick and Tick Compare Reg Test
        CPU Soft Trap Test
        CPU Softint Reg and Int Test
All Basic MMU Tests
        DMMU Primary Context Reg Test
        DMMU Secondary Context Reg Test
        DMMU TSB Reg Test
        DMMU Tag Access Reg Test
        DMMU VA Watchpoint Reg Test
        DMMU PA Watchpoint Reg Test
        IMMU TSB Reg Test
        IMMU Tag Access Reg Test
All Basic Cache Tests
        Dcache RAM Test
        Dcache Tag Test
        Icache RAM Test
        Icache Tag Test
        Icache Next Test
        Icache Predecode Test
Sabre MCU Control & Status Regs Init and Tests
        Init Sabre MCU Control & Status Regs
                Initializing SC registers in SabreIO
Memory Probe and Init
        Probe Memory
                bank 0:   0MB
                INFO:    256MB Bank 2
INFO: MC0 = 0x00000000.800014a2, MC1 = 0x00000000.0c4aab14
        Ecache Access Test
        Malloc Post Memory
        Memory Addr with Ecache
        Load Post In Memory
        Run POST from MEM
        ..........
loaded POST in memory
        Map PROM/STACK/NVRAM in DMMU
        Update Master Stack/Frame Pointers
All FPU Basic Tests
        FPU Regs Test
        FPU Move Regs Test
        FPU State Reg Test
        FPU Functional Test
        FPU Trap Test
UPA Data Bus Line Test
Memory Tests
        Init Memory
                INFO:      0MB at bank 0 stack 0
                INFO:      0MB at bank 0 stack 1
                INFO:    256MB at bank 2 stack 0 (2 dimms per bank)
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                INFO:      0MB at bank 2 stack 1
        Memory Addr with Ecache Test
                INFO:      0MB at bank 0 stack 0
                INFO:      0MB at bank 0 stack 1
                INFO:    256MB at bank 2 stack 0 (2 dimms per bank)
                INFO:      0MB at bank 2 stack 1
        ECC Memory Addr Test
                INFO:      0MB at bank 0 stack 0
                INFO:      0MB at bank 0 stack 1
                INFO:    256MB at bank 2 stack 0 (2 dimms per bank)
                INFO:      0MB at bank 2 stack 1
        Block Memory Addr Test
                INFO:      0MB at bank 0 stack 0
                INFO:      0MB at bank 0 stack 1
                INFO:    256MB at bank 2 stack 0 (2 dimms per bank)
                INFO:      0MB at bank 2 stack 1
        Block Memory Test
                INFO:      0MB at bank 0 stack 0
                INFO:      0MB at bank 0 stack 1
                INFO:    256MB at bank 2 stack 0 (2 dimms per bank)
Write 0x33333333.33333333 ......................................................
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                INFO:      0MB at bank 2 stack 1
        ECC Blk Memory Test
                INFO:      0MB at bank 0 stack 0
                INFO:      0MB at bank 0 stack 1
                INFO:    256MB at bank 2 stack 0 (2 dimms per bank)
Write 0xa5a5a5a5.a5a5a5a5 ......................................................
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                INFO:      0MB at bank 2 stack 1
All Basic Sabre MMU Tests
        Init Sabre
        PIO Decoder and BCT Test
        PCI Byte Enable Test
        Interrupt Map (short) Reg Test
        Interrupt Set/Clr Reg Test
        Sabre IOMMU Regs Test
        Sabre IOMMU RAM Address Test
        Sabre IOMMU CAM Address Test
        IOMMU TLB Compare Test
        IOMMU TLB Flush Test
        PBMA PCI Config Space Regs Test
        PBMA Control/Status Reg Test
        PBMA Diag Reg Test
        Sabre IO Regs Test
All Advanced CPU Tests
        DMMU Hit/Miss Test
        IMMU Hit/Miss Test
        DMMU Little Endian Test
        IU ASI Access Test
        FPU ASI Access Test
        Ecache Thrash Test
All CPU Error Reporting Tests
        CPU Data Access Trap Test
        CPU Addr Align Trap Test
        DMMU Access Priv Page Test
        DMMU Write Protected Page Test
All Advanced Sabre IOMMU Tests
        Init Sabre
        Consist DMA Rd, IOMMU miss Ebus Test
        Consist DMA Rd, IOMMU hit Ebus Test
        Consist DMA Wr, IOMMU miss Ebus Test
        Consist DMA Wr, IOMMU hit Ebus Test
        Pass-Thru DMA Rd, Ebus device Test
        Pass-Thru DMA Wr, Ebus device Test
        Consist DMA Rd, IOMMU LRU Lock Ebus Test
        Consist DMA Wr, IOMMU LRU Locked Ebus Test
All Basic Cheerio Tests
        Cheerio Ebus PCI Config Space Test
        Cheerio Ethernet PCI Config Space Test
        Cheerio Init
All Sabre IOMMU Error Reporting Tests
        Init Sabre
        PIO Read, Master Abort Test
        PIO Read, Target Abort Test


Status of this POST run:        PASS
manfacturing mode=OFF
Time Stamp [hour:min:sec] 22:06:18  [month/date year] 10/08 2005




Power On Selftest Completed
Software Power ON0.0000.0000.0000 ffff.ffff.f00b.4378 0002.3333.0200.001b

@(#) Sun Ultra 5/10 UPA/PCI  3.15 Version 2 created 1998/11/10 10:35
Clearing E$ Tags  Done
Clearing I/D TLBs Done
Probing Memory Done
MEM BASE = 0000.0000.1000.0000
MEM SIZE = 0000.0000.1000.0000
11-Column Mode Enabled
MMUs ON
Copy Done
PC = 0000.01ff.f000.1fec
PC = 0000.0000.0000.2030
Decompressing into Memory Done
Size = 0000.0000.0006.e660
ttya initialized
Reset Control: BXIR:0 BPOR:0 SXIR:0 SPOR:1 POR:0
UltraSPARC-IIi 2-2 module
Probing Memory Bank #0   0 +   0 :   0 Megabytes
Probing Memory Bank #2 128 + 128 : 256 Megabytes
Probing UPA Slot at 1e,0 Nothing There
Probing /pci@1f,0/pci@1,1 at Device 1  pci108e,1000
Probing /pci@1f,0/pci@1,1 at Device 2
Probing /pci@1f,0/pci@1,1 at Device 3
Probing /pci@1f,0/pci@1 at Device 1  pci108e,1000 SUNW,hme
Probing /pci@1f,0/pci@1 at Device 2  Nothing there
Probing /pci@1f,0/pci@1 at Device 3  Nothing there
Probing /pci@1f,0/pci@1 at Device 4  Nothing there
screen not found.

No keyboard support found
Can't open input device.
Keyboard not present.  Using ttya for input and output.
Reset Control: BXIR:0 BPOR:0 SXIR:0 SPOR:1 POR:0
UltraSPARC-IIi 2-2 module
Probing Memory Bank #0   0 +   0 :   0 Megabytes
Probing Memory Bank #2 128 + 128 : 256 Megabytes
Probing UPA Slot at 1e,0 Nothing There
Probing /pci@1f,0/pci@1,1 at Device 1  pci108e,1000
Probing /pci@1f,0/pci@1,1 at Device 2
Probing /pci@1f,0/pci@1,1 at Device 3
Probing /pci@1f,0/pci@1 at Device 1  pci108e,1000 SUNW,hme
Probing /pci@1f,0/pci@1 at Device 2  Nothing there
Probing /pci@1f,0/pci@1 at Device 3  Nothing there
Probing /pci@1f,0/pci@1 at Device 4  Nothing there

Sun Ultra 5/10 UPA/PCI (UltraSPARC-IIi 333MHz), Keyboard Present
OpenBoot 3.15, 256 MB memory installed, Serial #11294489.
Ethernet address 8:0:20:ac:57:19, Host ID: 80ac5719.



Boot device: net  File and args:
Evaluating: boot

Can't open boot device

ok show-post-results
Status 0=Pass, Non-Zero=Fail (%o0): 0
Message String               (%o1):
Board Descriptor             (%o2): 233330200001b
ok show-devs
/SUNW,UltraSPARC-IIi@0,0
/pci@1f,0
/virtual-memory
/memory@0,10000000
/aliases
/options
/openprom
/chosen
/packages
/pci@1f,0/pci@1
/pci@1f,0/pci@1,1
/pci@1f,0/pci@1/SUNW,hme@1,1
/pci@1f,0/pci@1/pci108e,1000@1
/pci@1f,0/pci@1,1/<Unnamed>
/pci@1f,0/pci@1,1/<Unnamed>
/pci@1f,0/pci@1,1/<Unnamed>
/pci@1f,0/pci@1,1/ebus@1
/pci@1f,0/pci@1,1/ebus@1/SUNW,CS4231@14,200000
/pci@1f,0/pci@1,1/ebus@1/flashprom@10,0
/pci@1f,0/pci@1,1/ebus@1/eeprom@14,0
/pci@1f,0/pci@1,1/ebus@1/fdthree@14,3023f0
/pci@1f,0/pci@1,1/ebus@1/ecpp@14,3043bc
/pci@1f,0/pci@1,1/ebus@1/su@14,3062f8
/pci@1f,0/pci@1,1/ebus@1/su@14,3083f8
/pci@1f,0/pci@1,1/ebus@1/se@14,400000
/pci@1f,0/pci@1,1/ebus@1/SUNW,pll@14,504000
/pci@1f,0/pci@1,1/ebus@1/power@14,724000
/pci@1f,0/pci@1,1/ebus@1/auxio@14,726000
/openprom/client-services
/packages/sun-keyboard
/packages/SUNW,builtin-drivers
/packages/disk-label
/packages/obp-tftp
/packages/deblocker
/packages/terminal-emulator
ok boot cdrom
Boot device: /pci@1f,0/pci@1,1/ide@3/cdrom@2,0:f  File and args:

Can't open boot device

ok boot disk
Boot device: /pci@1f,0/pci@1,1/ide@3/disk@0,0  File and args:

Can't open boot device

ok watch-net
ok test net
Device net not found.
ok

--- Ende Code ---
(Seltsamerweise funzt das Keyboard während des POSTs, danach allerdings nichtmehr (war angeschlossen))

Update: Kam die Antwort während ich die hier geschrieben hab ;) werd ihr gleich nochmal den Raiser rausnehmen und probieren ...

Update2: Habe grade den PCI-Raiser rausgenommen (und CD/HDD/FDD abgestöpselt), auch nichts :/

cya
ChrisXX

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