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Solaris 8 ISO images
« am: 24. Juli 2007, 09:27:31 »
Hallo,

Ich hab vor ca. 2 Wochen von der Sun Homepage das Install Image von Solaris 8 gezogen. Die 2 Software-CD images konnte ich nicht downloaden weil der Sun download manager mit einer Fehlermeldung abgebrochen ist.

Jetzt hab ich gestern nochmal versucht die Images zu ziehen aber ich kann kein Solaris8 mehr finden. Hat Sun da irgendwas einstestellt?
Das Problem ist dass ich eine Software von Linux auf Soalris8 portieren muss.

Die Images von Solaris9 gibts noch, in wie weit ist das kompatibel/binärkompatibel?

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Solaris 8 ISO images
« am: 24. Juli 2007, 09:27:31 »

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Re: Solaris 8 ISO images
« Antwort #1 am: 24. Juli 2007, 14:44:31 »
Ältere Versionen sind üblicherweise nicht mehr zum freien Download verfügbar.

Über einen Wartungvertrag kommt man natürlich noch an die Images heran bzw. kann sich diese zuschicken lassen. Dies gilt auch für Releases um bestimmte neue Systeme zu unterstützen (z.B. Solaris 9 9/05 HW u.a. für die Fire V245).

Besitzt du überhaupt eine Lizenz für Solaris 8 ?

Sofern man bei Erscheinen von Solaris 8 eine kostenlose Lizenz erhalten hat, gilt diese noch. Nachdem Solaris 9 heraus kam, konnte man diese aber nachträglich nicht mehr bekommen.

Die Lizenzbestimmungen für Solaris 9 findet man hier

http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/9/licensing/policies.xml

Obwohl Solaris 9 nach Anmeldung im Sun Download Center heruntergeladen werden kann, heißt dies leider nicht, daß man damit auch eine Lizenz besitzt/erhält.
Im Sun Download Center kann man sich auch anzeigen lassen, wann man welche Software heruntergeladen hat. Solange ein Download nicht als erfolgreich abgeschlossen wurde, kann man mit der gleichen Transaktionsid den Download wieder starten.

Ein Download-Möglichkeit für Solaris 8 habe ich nicht mehr gefunden.

Michael

P.S.: Falls man schon für die Registrierung nur einen Nickname benutzt und weder Ort noch den Vornamen angibt, sollte man sich zumindest vorstellen.
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Re: Solaris 8 ISO images
« Antwort #2 am: 24. Juli 2007, 16:57:56 »
Ich kann mich daran erinnern, dass ich es letztes Jahr noch runterladen konnte.
Wenn man sich hier durchklickt http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/8/index.xml , kommt man irgendwann bei "Server not found " raus.

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Re: Solaris 8 ISO images
« Antwort #3 am: 24. Juli 2007, 17:43:34 »
Auf diese Seite war ich noch nicht gestossen. Dort kann man über den Shop eine Lizenz erwerben ...

Andererseits sind aber schon die folgenden Informationen interessant:

"Solaris 8 Operating System has now reached the end of its shipping life, and on August 16, 2006 Sun announced the transition of this release:

Last order date is November 16, 2006
Last ship date is February 16, 2007
End of service life will be March 31, 2012

A grace period until 8/15/2007 lets customers install Solaris 8 on NEW Sun systems they purchased without requiring purchase of a Right-To-Use (RTU) license."

Auch für die Versionen vor Solaris 10 sind jetzt nur noch die Security Patches ohne Vertrag erhältlich.

Michael
« Letzte Änderung: 24. Juli 2007, 20:01:47 von maal »

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Re: Solaris 8 ISO images
« Antwort #4 am: 24. Juli 2007, 20:19:01 »
Wenn es eine Portierung auf kommerzieller Ebene ist, solltest Du in den "saueren" Apfel des Support-Vertrages beissen.

Wenn es im akademischen Umfeld ist, wirst Du vermutlich ohne Weiteres eine Lizenz dafür bekommen.

Was beide Fälle angeht, solltest Du dich vermutlich eher an Sun wenden, als an uns.


Was mich viel mehr wundert: Warum eine Software von Linux gerade auf Solaris 8 portieren?

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Re: Solaris 8 ISO images
« Antwort #5 am: 25. Juli 2007, 20:23:51 »
Hallo Claus,

irgendwie habe ich/haben wir "hirsch" verschreckt.

Andererseits könnte es aber so sein, wie ich es gleich vermutet hatte: Es ging eben nur darum eine Frage beantwortet zu bekommen.

Solaris 8 SPARC dürfte man leicht über eBay in Form eines Media Kit erhalten.

Michael

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Re: Solaris 8 ISO images
« Antwort #6 am: 27. Juli 2007, 21:05:34 »
Tatsache!  :o

...Am 14.01.07 habe ich mir die SPARC-Version noch von Sun-Download-Center geladen. Die Solaris 8 2/04 x86-Version wollte ich erst später besorgen.  :-\

=> http://www.sun.com/service/eosl/solaris/solaris_vintage_eol_5.2005.xml ...*#~?!

Dafür ist die 9'er Version noch zu haben:
http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/9/index.xml

Beim Download muss man einem EULA zustimmen. Gilt das denn nicht als Nutzungsabkommen (Lizenz)  ???
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Re: Solaris 8 ISO images
« Antwort #7 am: 28. Juli 2007, 08:07:22 »
Beim Download muss man einem EULA zustimmen. Gilt das denn nicht als Nutzungsabkommen (Lizenz)  ???
=> http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/licensing/sla.xml


Diese freie Lizenz gilt (nur) für die darin erwähnten Fälle:

2.  Developer License Grant

Du entwickelst darauf Software.

3.  EDUCATIONAL LICENSE GRANT

Du bist Schüler/Student/Lehrer und möchtest Dich weiterbilden.

4.  EVALUATION LICENSE GRANT

Du möchtest Solaris ausprobieren. Das darfst Du nur genau 60 Tage lang.

Für alles andere muss weiterhin Geld auf den Tisch gelegt werden.

Andrew.